Not my words.
If #Pirates fans were REMOTELY as demanding of their team as those of other two in town, they’d be cheering a winner, too.— Dejan Kovacevic (@Dejan_Kovacevic) March 30, 2013
It's ownership and management's fault that they suck. That they can receive praise no matter what dumb thing they do though, goes on the apologists back, fair and square.
@jlease717 I'm sure in some fictional uncomplicated world in which everything is simplistic and black + white that's true. But in the real world it's not.
Hahaha. I'm not nearly as demanding of the Steelers and Penguins. I've seen them win championships. I'm fairly happy with where they are. The Pirates last won a championship about five months before I was born, I've been pretty angry with how bad the team collapsed the last two years. I've been critical of every move they have made the last five years. When the Steelers missed the playoffs last year, I mostly shrugged it off and it didn't bother me much at all. When the Pens were eliminated last year, I was disappointed, but again just shrugged it off.
The plain fact is that Pittsburgh has rarely supported the Pirates since Forbes Field folded and the Steelers came into prominence. The only times attendance has broken 2 mil were '90 and '91, and '01, the first year of PNC Park. In '78, the Bucs needed to win out to take the division title; over Sept 25/26/27, a sweep of the Cubs, they drew 19,900 fans. TOTAL. During a pennant race! On the 24th, in Montreal, they drew 23,000 for one game. During that season they drew over 35,000 TWICE; the home opener (39k) and Sept 29th, a double header against the league leading Phillies (45k, the highest baseball attendance of the year).And that year they were GOOD. The 1979 team that WON THE FREAKIN' WORLD SERIES drew an average of 17,700... 330,000 BELOW the league average.
In fact, in the entire history of the Pirates, They averaged over 20,000 fans exactly ONCE before 1980 (1960). During the Bonds years they averaged around 24,000 about the league average... FOR ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS IN BASEBALL. Since '97 they've averaged over 20,000, but they have been well below the league average... because they've almost always been below league average in attendance, even when they've won the World Series.
...time to upgrade that blackberry curve as well. You'll be able to figure out the touch screen. My 70-yr old mom figured it out. (You'll see her @ PNC Park too - that's the demographic).
Dude. What's wrong with you. Open your mind. The bucs as you once knew them (1993) are history. There is no happy ending. Time to splurge for the sports package with your cable company and tune into some pens games. Stop torturing yourself. It's painful ( yet entertaining) to read your blog. Wow. Give up. BTW - Dejan is 100% correct. Time to raise your standards and expectations. Baseball is dead. Hoops are dead.
@Bjorn nitmo "Dude. What's wrong with you. Open your mind. The bucs as you once knew them (1993) are history. There is no happy ending. Time to splurge for the sports package with your cable company and tune into some pens games. "Wait what the fuck
do you, like, know how television subscriptions work
@Bjorn nitmo What does that even mean? Without some specifics defining what 'demanding' means it is as used above nothing but hot air. I think it's safe to say Pat's expectations--or at least my expectations--were/are that I want the Pirates to build an organization that can be competitive for many years and possibly challenge for a title.
@Bjorn nitmo Dude,dontcha know that DK is correct about EVERYTHING sports ? Just ask him about the Pens,the Steelers,Pitt footbal and basketball and he will be more than happy to tell you what is wrong.
It is amazing how people forget how apathetic this town was towards the Pens from the point Jagr left till Crosby came to town. This town stopeed caring about the Pens, and the attendance numbers point to that. There was no screaming for change, they just stopped showing up.
Pittsburgh is a notoriously fairweather sports city. That is what happens when you have a team like the Steelers not experience a stretch of losing since the 60's, and you brand yourself as the "City of Champions" You pound it into people from an early age not to follow a team that isn't winning.