The daily AJ Burnett update

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There was some brief panic among Pirate fans yesterday afternoon when more teams started showing up in the AJ Burnett sweepstakes. First, there was word that the Yankees were looking to swap Burnett to Cleveland for Travis Hafner, moving salary for salary and getting the left-handed DH that they want. There was also word that the Angels were interested in Burnett. 

We learned pretty quickly, though, that the Indians weren't interested in a Hafner/Burnett swap and that the Angels are on Burnett's no trade list, as it's made up of teams on the West Coast since his wife lives in Maryland. That leaves us where we've always been; with the Pirates and Yankees haggling over exactly how much salary the Pirates should take/what sort of prospects the Yankees should receive in return for Burnett.

If you ask me, this is all a good sign for the Pirates. If the Yankees are going around actively shopping Burnett elsewhere, it's pretty obvious the Bucs have the upper-hand because they're the only club that has much interest. There's no hurry on the Pirates' end; spring training doesn't start for almost three weeks and a veteran like Burnett is hardly a guy that needs to get to camp super-early. The Pirates absolutely should be trying to get Burnett for as cheaply as possible because if no one else is interested, the Yankees will probably fold on some of their demands. As far as I can tell, no one else is interested. 

Buster Olney said last night that the deal is "really really close," so let's just sit back and see what happens in the next couple of days. 

Jonah Keri previews the Pirates

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Jonah Keri, writing for Grantland, previews the 2012 Pirates. He's not terribly hard on the Bucs (he notes, as I have, that there's a lot of talent in the rotation but a huge bust potential as well), and he's got a very positive outlook for Andrew McCutchen. 

But in his three big league seasons, McCutchen has now posted impressive power (23 homers, .198 ISO last year), a solid contact rate (84.6 percent), and big walk totals (89) … just not all in the same season. He's still just 25, and you can feel a consolidation season coming, where all of McCutchen's offensive skills come together and he challenges for league MVP honors, his team's record be damned.

Yes, sign me up for that, please. 

Kevin Goldstein's Top 101

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Over at Baseball Prospectus today, Kevin Goldstein's got his top 101 prospects listed. I could be wrong, but I think this is the first list to put six Pirates in the top 100. Goldstein's Buccos in the top 101 are: 

9. Gerrit Cole
13. Jameson Taillon
42. Luis Heredia
43. Josh Bell
56. Starling Marte
76. Robbie Grossman

I have a few thoughts. The first is that, if you remember, Goldstein talked quite a bit about how top-heavy the Pirates' system is on his podcast about six weeks ago, but it's obvious that part of the reason that he thinks it's top heavy is that he really likes the Pirates' top five prospects. I'm also happy to see Jameson Taillon stay high on people's lists because it means that they're interpreting his first-year results (that he had a strong year, even if his ERA was a bit high and he didn't quite dominate) pretty much the same way that I am. And it's nice to see Robbie Grossman get some love. I think he turned quite a few heads in the AFL this year. I hope he's healthy for the season to start. 

And finally, it's nice to know that Luis Heredia is the answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything. I assume that Dan Fox and his crew are running simulations to determine the question as we speak. Once that's done, the Pirates will be unstoppable. 

I mean, what the heck, why not just fill up the whole front page of the blog with AJ Burnett posts?

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AJ Burnett is not Matt Morris (and other thoughts on the potential trade)

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I was going to wait until the Pirates and Yankees officially have a deal more about AJ Burnett, but since I'm in lab this afternoon without much to do I figured I'd put together a post that tries to get as much Burnett information into one place as I can. I have this bad habit of assuming that everyone is on the same page as me, even when I write things in November and don't really fully explain them for months after that. 

Whether or not the Pirates can complete a trade for AJ Burnett, they definitely need to add another pitcher to the rotation before the season starts. It's true that the rotation as-constituted is pretty much the same as it was last year with Maholm swapped out for Bedard, but that doesn't mean it's good enough and there are several reasons why. First off, the Pirates had five starters last year throw more than 150 innings. That is insane; the Phillies had three, the Giants had four, the Braves had three, and I could keep going down the list with the rest of the NL's best rotations. There's no reason to believe Pirates will be nearly as healthy in 2012 as they were in 2011; Erik Bedard is in the rotation now and Charlie Morton already has a hip problem that could cost him time in April and that's not even considering James McDonald's big inning leap from 2010-2011. Without another starter, the Pirates are going to spend considerable time leaning on guys outside of their top six. That means Rudy Owens or Jeff Locke -- two guys who as of today are certainly not ready for a regular role in a big league rotation -- or some cast-off like Jo-Jo Reyes or Shairon Martis.

Beyond that, the Pirates' first six starters aren't really very good. The team allowed 712 runs last year, which was well below average and 11th in the National League. There's no real barometer for Charlie Morton once he comes back from his injury because of the changes he made last year and he could just as easily take a big step backwards as he could continue forward. Jeff Karstens almost certainly used a bunch smoke and mirrors last year and his ERA will swell at least a little bit once he starts allowing something other than solo home runs. James McDonald is inconsistent and impossible to get a read on. Kevin Correia is awful. Brad Lincoln's ceiling isn't much higher than a fourth starter and there's no real reason at this point to think he'll even be that good. No one can say anything for certain (last year's rotation ended up much better than we all expected, even if it wasn't good), but I have absolutely no qualms about saying that I think the Pirates' rotation will be a disaster in 2012 if they don't find another starter. 

So, is AJ Burnett that particular starter? He certainly hasn't been that great in New York over the last two years and he's 35 now, so there's plenty of reason for concern. That said, he's thrown 377 innings over the last two seasons and even though he's been bad in those two years he's managed a lot of strikeouts and a K/BB rate of 1.98 and his xFIPs in those two years have been significantly better than his ERA (ERAs: 5.26, 5.15; xFIPs: 4.49, 3.86). What the low xFIP means is that Burnett's home run rate exceeds what you might expect it to be based on his flyball rate. Given the way that balls have flown out of Yankee Stadium III since it opened in 2009, this is a pretty expected result. In simpler terms what that means is this: if you throw out his high ERA and all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth from Yankees' fans and the New York media over Burnett's performance in pinstripes and just look at the relevant numbers, there's plenty of reason to think that a trade out of Yankee Stadium and out of the AL East would do wonders for Burnett's career.

I don't mean he'll be better because of some stupid Yankee-centric BS reasoning about the spotlight being off of him in Pittsburgh, I mean that his numbers suggest that he can still miss bats at a reasonable rate and that if he moves out of Yankee Stadium his home run rate will probably drop a bit and if that happens, he could still be a productive pitcher for the Pirates for 180 or so innings. Purely on numbers, this trade would look like a win for the Pirates if they can negotiate their end of Burnett's salary down to about $5 million per year and not have to give up any sort of significant prospect. Anyone that compares AJ Burnett at this point in his career to Matt Morris in 2007 should have their keyboard taken away. Burnett has strong peripherals that are being masked by a terrible pitching environment whereas Morris in 2007 had awful peripherals matched by a great pitching environment. Burnett may not work out, but it's not because of something that's immediately apparent from his recent performance if you take any time at all to analyze what he did as a Yankee. 

All of these things being said, there are reasons to be nervous about Burnett from the Pirates' perspective, even though these reasons are much less concrete. As mentioned above, Burnett is 35. In 2008, the first season in which PitchFX cameras were installed in every ballpark in baseball, Burnett's fastball clocked in at an average of 94.3 mph. Last year it was down to 92.7. That's still a decent average velocity, but it's obvious from his fastball rate and his tailing strikeout numbers (his 7.0 K/9 in 2010 was the lowest number he's had since returning from Tommy John surgery in 2004, though he rebounced to 8.2 K/9 last year) that he's on the downside of his career. Just like young players don't always improve in linear fashion, old players don't always lose their skills in linear fashion. Burnett could certainly be about to fall off of a cliff in terms of ability. He doesn't seem to be there quite yet, but it's not something that's easy to say for sure.

It's also worth mentioning that while PNC Park is generally more pitcher-friendly than Yankee Stadium, it's better to left-handed pitchers than it is to righties. The right field foul pole at PNC is relative close (320 feet) and the 21-foot high Clemente wall only makes up for so much of that. Left-handed hitters have a significantly easier time putting the ball out of the park than righties do at PNC, so it's possible that the stadium change won't alleviate all of Burnett's home run woes. It should at the very least help a little bit, but let's not pretend that he's moving out to San Francisco or San Diego. 

There's also the Pittsburgh Pirate factor. Burnett has made his desire to stay in New York and compete for their last rotation spot well-known. Being traded to the Pirates is something much different. Does anyone really think that Nick Evans is as excited about his invite to Pirates' camp as Bill Hall was for his invite to Yankees' camp? Remember when the Pirates traded Chad Hermansen to Chicago for Darren Lewis and Lewis just flat-out retired rather than join the team? Or the way Jody Gerut milked his knee injury to get released rather than play for the Pirates? I know I don't need to remind anyone about Raul Mondesi or Aki Iwamura or Derek Bell and their illustrious Pirate careers. Burnett's got $87 million in the bank with $33 million more coming over the next two years no matter what. No one can make him want to be a Pirate if he doesn't want to be. 

It's incredibly unfair to Burnett to suggest that he's just going to fold up and quit if he gets traded to the Pirates, though. The Pirates are actually offering him an opportunity to pitch every fifth day, and that's not an opportunity that he's going to get anywhere else. Once the Yankees assume the burden of most of his ridiculous contract, there's no reason the Pirates can't flip him at the deadline to a contender if they're out of contention he pitches well enough in the first part of the season. Ray Searage has helped more than a few pitchers with control problems and he's also helped several guys with home run problems keep the ball on the ground. If Burnett thinks he can still pitch (and there's no reason to think he doesn't), getting a chance to pitch every day is exactly what he needs at this point in his career. The Pirates give him that. 

For the Pirates, Burnett's not a sure thing and even at $5 million a year he carries some real risk. That's mostly due to his age and his home run tendencies, but I won't blame you for adding in a Pittsburgh Pirate multiplier. Still, the Pirates need a pitcher and it's hard to see where they'll find one at this point with more talent than Burnett. There are plenty of very good reasons to think that he'll be more successful in Pittsburgh than he was in New York and if the Pirates can bargain the Yankees down far enough, this is a risk that they have to take. 

Olney: 'Framework' for Burnett deal in place

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That would make it sound a lot like a deal is just about done, but then Olney went on to say that the deal isn't done and the two sides haven't agreed on players or money

So how is it different than, "The Pirates and Yankees are talking about AJ Burnett and a deal will probably happen eventually," which is what we've been hearing for two days? I'm not really sure that it is.  

Your daily AJ Burnett Sweepstakes update

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From Bill Brink at the PG

First baseman/right fielder Garrett Jones, previously reported as a player the Yankees wanted to acquire in the deal, was not part of the discussions, the source said.

It seems the Pirates prefer to assume more of Burnett's salary rather than part with players from their organization. Burnett will earn $33 million over the next two years, the final seasons of a five-year, $82.5 million contract he signed before the 2009 season. The Pirates agreed to pay $10 million of the $33 million owed to Burnett, according to a CBS Sports report.

It seems to me that the Pirates are playing this one just about right: they don't need Burnett because he carries quite a bit of inherent risk and Joe Blanton and John Lannan are also on the market (Burnett is undoubtedly the most talented of this trio, but I think he also presents a bit more risk of bottoming out). The Yankees, meanwhile, do need to get rid of Burnett's salary. They'd like Jones, but if they don't get him they can sign Johnny Damon or Raul Ibanez. They'd like a prospect, but they're also the Yankees and they're more concerned with the near future. If no one else is interested in Burnett, the Pirates have all of the power in this negotation and there's no reason for them to buckle anywhere. 

This is the strange part of the off-season

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With just a few days remaining until pitchers and catchers report and fans move on to ridiculing stories about their favorite fat players being in the best shape of their lives, the baseball world is weirdly focused on the Pirates right now. Pretty much nothing is happening anywhere except that the Yankees are trying to trade a guy and the Pirates seem like the likely trade partner. As a result, something like 99% of baseball news is currently revolving around AJ Burnett and thus, the Pirates. It's very strange. Onto today's AJ Burnett-related stories! 

Joel Sherman says he thinks that the Yankees will trade Burnett and they're just looking for the club that will make them eat less of Burnett's salary, Pirates or otherwise. That sort of meshes with my theory about Jones yesterday. Jayson Stark mentions that John Lannan and Joe Blanton may also be traded before the season starts and that the Pirates could also be interested in them. That's presumably contingent upon them not trading Burnett, which makes sense. Burnett represents a bigger risk, but I'd much rather have him than Blanton or Lannan. Jon Heyman says the Pirates and Yankees are currently negotiating how much of Burnett's salary the Yankees will eat, and he makes it sound contingent upon whether or not the Pirates send a player to the Yankees. (Links via MLBTR)

I'm sure we'll hear much, much more about this before the day ends because there's literally nothing else happening in baseball right now. Except "truck day," which isn't a real thing and doesn't count.  

More on AJ Burnett

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From Buster Olney, earlier this evening: 

If I may speculate a little, what I'm guessing is happening right now is that the Yankees have determined that they're going to have to eat a huge chunk of cash to get rid of Burnett, so they're likely offering to eat a little more in exchange for getting some value out of the trade.

If the Pirates and Yankees are at an impasse, it's likely not over Garrett Jones because I can't figure out where Jones would be an upgrade over what the Yankees have. Instead, the Yankees are likely buying some time and letting everyone know that they're willing to eat even more of Burnett's salary than initially expected to a team that's willing to give them something in return.