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The Ian Snell drama continues E-mail
Written by Pat Lackey   
Monday, 29 June 2009 08:55

I don't know how this whole Ian Snell thing is going to play out, but I can tell you that it's headed nowhere good. In today's notebook, DK talks to Neal Huntington, who actually calls Snell's extension a mistake and closes the piece out with this:

"Our focus now is to salvage something from this situation," Huntington said, "whether that's a trade, or Ian comes back -- maybe that's in the bullpen -- we'll see."

Check the whole thing out; I can't ever remember a GM being so completely negative about a player that's still in his system and frankly, I'm kind of shocked by it, even with everything that Snell's said and done in the past month.

I posted that first because I'm fairly sure that Huntington said that prior to Snell's start today (I know I heard during the game that someone said he called the Snell contract a mistake). In the lead to that notebook, DK has some of Snell's postgame comments posted, but the Indians' play-by-play guy, Scott McCauley has a lot more posted on his own blog. Here's a sampling:

The guys made me feel welcome here.  It was just fun to see this relaxed and fun atmosphere.  Nothing against the guys up there you know they work hard they do everything ...

It's just the fans are electric here.  You can tell, even though they don't say much or cheer much they pay attention to the game.  It was just fun pitching in front of them again."

I owe a lot of credit to (Catcher Erik) Kratz.  He did a tremendous job of setting up you know he didn't set up too early where they can see where I'm going.  He mixed the pitches real well ...

Again, check out McCauley's whole post because there's a lot in there about Snell that's worth reading. In the three paragraphs I've posted there, Snell tosses his teammates in Pittsburgh under the bus, completely slays Pirate fans, and then pushes his catchers under the same bus he already threw them under once, gets in the proverbial bus, backs over them several times, parks the bus on top of them, douses it with gasoline, and lights it on fire. Oh, but nothing against the guys up there. Talk about passive aggressive.

I have been accused by some people (including, I'm pretty sure, Snell himself, albeit in an indirect manner) of being too hard on Snell and making too much of the comments, like the ones above, that Snell makes after his starts. The final line on it is this; either Snell went out and did exactly what he did in the majors and found success against a Triple-A team, or he went out and flashed stuff that was above and beyond what he's shown with the Pirates this year to prove a point to the front office and coaching staff and team. Neither is a good thing.


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Tim said:

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At least 17 K's is a flashy number. Maybe now some GM will buy into that hype and offer something of value for Snell. That's really all I'm hoping for.
 
June 29, 2009
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Ryan said:

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See, look at all this damn negativity around Pittsburgh! I can almost see Ian walking through a grass field of flowers on a sunny day in Indy, just smiling because he's a positive person.
 
June 29, 2009
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whygavs said:

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I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darnit, people like me!
 
June 29, 2009
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w.k. kortas said:

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I suspect Snell may just leave baseball behind to become our Ambassador to the U.N.
 
June 29, 2009
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The Cobra said:

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Id be perfectly fine if ian became a throw in just to get milledge and the pitcher huntington wanted from the nats... Hes the type of guy that even if he found success somewhere else, hed come back to pittsburgh with shit in his pants and wed light his world on fire
 
June 29, 2009
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JRoth said:

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I didn't even know WHYGAVS had a UN ambassador.
 
June 29, 2009
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JRoth said:

Actually
I'm pretty sure Ian would strike out 17 Pirates if he came back following a dump trade.

Seriously, he would live for that moment.
 
June 29, 2009
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whygavs said:

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It's not official until the counter at the bottom hits 1,000,000, but they let me name one early so he can get situated.
 
June 29, 2009
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Nate said:

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Agreed. It would be worth it to get him out of here, but I would live in fear of every game we had to play against Ian Snell.
 
June 29, 2009
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The Cobra said:

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He also lives for the moment every time he faces albert pujols or plays against a team he thinks is stealing his signs... None of that has worked out too favorably for him
 
June 29, 2009
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Derek B. said:

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I don't think anyone who knows anything about baseball—yes, Ian, other people know about baseball, too—has ever said Ian Snell doesn't have loads of talent. The strikeout total is a bit staggering, but his success in Indianapolis shouldn't surprise anyone.

The problem is the attitude and unwillingness to take advice, criticism, responsibility, etc.

If he eventually comes back to Pittsburgh, keeps his head on straight and pitches as well as he's capable of, I'll be happy. If we can trade him for a good return, I'll be happy. Either way,

And I actually think it's nice to see NH give some honesty—it sounds harsh because we're used to people giving politically correct, say-nothing answers all the time. I think it's refreshing.
 
June 29, 2009
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bucsuck said:

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on the fsn post game the other night when snell announced to the world that he had asked to be demoted teke had some pretty straight up thoughts on snell and the whole situation - he even included that he didn't beleive that snell asked for the demotion, but put that spin on it trying to garner sympothy
 
June 29, 2009
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Fat Jimmy said:

in fairness to Snell
In fairness to Snell, those quotes at the end of the game story don't reference the question asked. We could be reading into it. For instance, if the question to the first quote was "what was it like striking out 17 after all your problems in Pittsburgh?", his answer reads a little differently. Is he throwing his Pirate teammates under the bus, or was he complimenting the no-names in Indy?

Look, the guy is insane, but I'm tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
 
June 29, 2009
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w.k. kortas said:

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Ian has a little history of deferring the credit for his lack of success.
 
June 29, 2009
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Fat Jimmy said:

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Understood. But he isn't blaming people for his failures. He's complimenting his teammates. We're presposing that his compliments are passive aggressive insults to teammates, fans and coaches in Pittsburgh. Maybe that is the case, but it's difficult to say without knowing the context of the questions.
 
June 29, 2009
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Dave said:

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If you heard the whole NH interview, he stressed that what they really need from Ian is that he finally understand that the people giving him advice (coaches, etc..,) are trying to >help him< and he should listen to them. The NH Show is a must-listen because unlike Littlefield, NH gives you real, honest insight to what's going on.

BTW, people really need to think about the Pirates inability to turn around Snell when they talk about adding another complete head-case like Milledge to the team
 
June 29, 2009
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maguro said:

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Snell didn't just compliment the AAA catcher, he went out of his way to slam JJ and RD:

"he didn't set up too early where they can see where I'm going"

If I was Ian's agent, I'd recommend a "No speaking to the media" policy, effective immediately.
 
June 29, 2009
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Nick said:

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I was a Snell fan, apologist and defender...until about a week ago. More than anything, I'd say he needs the Don Corleone treatment: "Act like a F&$^*#! MAN!!!!!"
 
June 29, 2009
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w.k. kortas said:

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If a dog bites me in the ass five times, I'm not going to work on the assumption that the sixth time he's gonna lick my face.
 
June 29, 2009
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alcofan said:

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Lets talk about the cubs
 
June 29, 2009
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JRoth said:

Agreed But
Dickish and uncalled-for comment by Ian, but I'm 95% certain that I've heard the radio announcers mention one of the young catchers (JJ or RD) setting up too early, and I know they've pointed out times when one or the other has set up his glove simply out of the strike zone on a 3 ball pitch.

I think the bats of JJ and RD have blinded us a bit to the fact that they're pretty much AAA players; if we still had an Osik, and Doumit were healthy, we'd be better off both of them getting seasoning in AAA. I'm pretty disappointed in JJ's D, considering that was supposed to be his strength. But he was solely responsible for the winning run scoring yesterday, on a play that every catcher should know how to make.

But, again, dick comment from Snell.
 
June 29, 2009
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Jesus said:

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I played against snell in high school when he played in southern Delaware and he was a dick. One game he brought a bat on to the field because one of our pitchers threw high and inside to one of his teammates. He wasn't even the best pitcher in Delaware at the time---just got lucky for a few years.
 
June 29, 2009
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maguro said:

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Dickish and completely wrong, I might add. Batters don't need to peek at the catcher to know where that Ian's going for that outside corner.
 
June 30, 2009
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